By John Mauldin
May 15, 2020
I knew this letter’s topic months ago. It was going to be a review of the Strategic Investment Conference, which would have just concluded fabulously in sunny Scottsdale.
Well, something intervened. Coronavirus precautions kept us from having an in-person conference. No one was more disappointed than me. I often say SIC is the highlight of my year, and I’m not kidding. Being around so many brilliant minds, soaking up their knowledge, and all the while meeting and talking with so many loyal readers and close friends—it’s just an amazing experience.
Yet I have to say, the Virtual SIC we are now halfway through is amazing, too. It’s different, obviously. Instead of shaking hands, I’m sitting in front of a camera in my makeshift bedroom studio. There’s no applause or hallway chats or wonderful meals with friends. But we’ve made up for the missing elements with extra speakers and a stretched-out schedule. It’s a little less intense—and a lot more relaxed.
We have two days to go and you can still join us. More on that below. But first, I want to share some first-week highlights.
Week 1 Highlights
When people fly in from all corners of the world, as normally happens, we pack SIC into three-and-a-half days in order to respect everyone’s time. This year the whole concept of “time” is different, so we adapted a bit. The program is five days in total but we’ve split them up, and the days are shorter. This week it’s Monday-Wednesday-Friday, and next week Tuesday-Thursday.
I’m writing this letter on Thursday so we’ve completed only two days. At only 40% through, my brain is already jam-packed. I can’t possibly summarize everything we heard but I’ll give you a few nuggets.
- Dave Rosenberg, our traditional lead-off hitter, started the event on a bearish note. Back at the 2009 SIC, if memory serves correctly, he turned from bearish to bullish. Not anymore. He thinks we are in an outright depression and won’t recover for a long time. He thinks those who expect recovery this year are delusional because many of the job losses will be permanent and probably half of small businesses will fail.
One of Dave’s points I found particularly compelling: The staggering amounts of money governments have already spent aren’t “stimulus” as we normally use the word. They are more like “life support.” They’re helping contain the damage, but they aren’t going to bring the economy back. That part hasn’t even started yet.
Dave distinguishes “depression” from a milder recession by the permanent behavioral changes it produces. He thinks consumer spending will change as people focus on needs rather than wants, and the savings rate will rise as they prepare for the unknown. His best case is for recovery by 2023, and a slow grind from here to there. But he also named several sectors he thinks can outperform along the way, so he’s not entirely despondent. He is not running for the hills, he’s just running to different hills.
- Later Monday, Dr. Lacy Hunt amplified some of Dave’s points. He thinks we may initially see an impressive-looking recovery just because the economy will improve from such low levels. He doesn’t expect it to last long, or reverse the lost output and employment. The debt overhang he’s been describing is now even worse and will affect growth for years to come.
Like Dave, Lacy expects private savings to rise but he thinks government debt, which is actually “dis-saving,” will overwhelm private savings and leave the nation’s savings rate net negative. That hasn’t happened since the 1930s. Between falling debt productivity and unfavorable demographics (low population growth) he sees a dismal growth picture. But he also points out other economies are in even worse shape, so the US should still be the relative leader.
As is his usual style, Lacy illustrated his speech with powerful charts. Let me show two that I found particularly interesting. The first was a projection of the output gap: how much the economy is producing versus what it could produce. It is dropping us to the lowest level since World War II.
Dave distinguishes “depression” from a milder recession by the permanent behavioral changes it produces. He thinks consumer spending will change as people focus on needs rather than wants, and the savings rate will rise as they prepare for the unknown. His best case is for recovery by 2023, and a slow grind from here to there. But he also named several sectors he thinks can outperform along the way, so he’s not entirely despondent. He is not running for the hills, he’s just running to different hills.
- Later Monday, Dr. Lacy Hunt amplified some of Dave’s points. He thinks we may initially see an impressive-looking recovery just because the economy will improve from such low levels. He doesn’t expect it to last long, or reverse the lost output and employment. The debt overhang he’s been describing is now even worse and will affect growth for years to come.
Like Dave, Lacy expects private savings to rise but he thinks government debt, which is actually “dis-saving,” will overwhelm private savings and leave the nation’s savings rate net negative. That hasn’t happened since the 1930s. Between falling debt productivity and unfavorable demographics (low population growth) he sees a dismal growth picture. But he also points out other economies are in even worse shape, so the US should still be the relative leader.
As is his usual style, Lacy illustrated his speech with powerful charts. Let me show two that I found particularly interesting. The first was a projection of the output gap: how much the economy is producing versus what it could produce. It is dropping us to the lowest level since World War II.
John Mauldin
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